Yesterday I shared a post written by my long-term friend and colleague, Shawn Seigel, in which Shawn eloquently expressed the findings of his trip down the rabbit hole as he ponders the existence of viruses, and their proposed ability to make us sick.
Shawn is a wonderful researcher. We’ve been good friends since 2008, when we met while assisting with research for an online debate between Dr. Boyd Haley (our side) and someone from the other side, whose identity escapes me at this point. It was during the preparation for that debate that I also first “met” and worked with Dr. Suzanne Humphries and Dr. Sherri Tenpenny. The friendships and professional associations forged in that time have continued to this day and I count myself as being extremely blessed to know and love these amazing humans.
At the risk of being a name-dropper, and because I know that my friends love to see stuff like this…
Shawn and yours-truly, at the Autism Trust in Austin, summer of 2017
Shawn and Suzanne with me at the Autism Trust, 2017
Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, me, Dr. Janet Levatin, and Dr. Toni Bark - Columbus, Ohio, 2016
Over time, I have also had the pleasure of working and presenting with Dr. Judy Mikovits. Let me tell you… if you ever have the opportunity to room with this amazing woman, or to sit with her over an IPA, do it. Your brain will be enriched in ways you never dreamed of, and you will probably need a nap, or a really good meditation session to recover. I’m pretty smart, but Judy makes me feel like a kindergartener. I haven’t spoken with Judy specifically about the existence of viruses, but I know from our talks, and from listening to HER talks, that she is most definitely NOT a virus-denier.
Dr. Judy Mikovits and me, Santa Barbara, California, December 2015.
Some of my other favorite people…
Dr. Mayer Eisenstein. He was just… beyond words incredible.
The day I first met Dr. Jack - James Lyons-Weiler. Rallying outside the CDC in Atlanta, October 2015.
And of course… Del Bigtree. At the No Mandates Rally in Los Angeles, April 2022
Notice all those smiles? The work we do (and in Toni’s case, the work she did and the legacy she left) is hard. It’s gut-wrenching, and at times, soul-crushing. The bonds that form from being one of a handful of “Davids” fighting against Goliath, are real. Those bonds are deep. They are based on a firm foundation of love. Love for humanity. Love for children, especially. Love of the truth.
The truth can be elusive, and not always because it is being actively hidden from us. Sometimes, the truth is multi-faceted. Sometimes what feels like contradiction can be two facets of truth presenting differently in different situations.
The discussion of whether viruses exist has become a bit of a hotbed. Prior to Shawn’s “coming out of the closet” as a virus-denier, I had been approached many times - I should say I was confronted many times - by people commenting on my posts and articles, challenging me to PROVE the existence of the viruses I have been writing about. Measles, especially. I have always resisted responding to those comments. I have not deleted them and have left them for others to engage in discussion, if they wish. I believe this is the most genuine and honest way to move forward when people who otherwise agree that vaccines are harmful and unnecessary, disagree about other aspects that are related to what, for me, is the core issue.
That core issue being:
Vaccines are harmful and unnecessary.
When it comes to the existence of what we call “viruses” there is definitely disagreement among my friends. And among my colleagues. Including those whose opinions I hold in the highest esteem. A few days prior to Shawn dropping his bombshell on me, I had watched the video of Dr. Suzanne Humphries and Dr. Joseph Mercola, discussing the release of the updated and expanded version of Dissolving Illusions. The video is no longer available without a paid subscription to Dr. Mercola’s Substack, but I did have the foresight to download and save the pdf of their discussion.
Here is what my friend Suzanne had to say about the polio virus:
Credit: Mercola.com
And here is what Dr. Suzanne has to say about the existence of viruses, in general:
Credit: Mercola.com
So… the polio virus is a commensal virus, meaning, the virus exists and lives on our skin and in our bodies, and is not problematic. What causes the symptoms of what we think of as “polio” is not the “polio virus,” but rather, a response to a toxic exposure (DDT, or the toxins injected via vaccination, as is the case with Vaccine-Associated Paralytic Polio and Polio Provocation).
When it comes to measles and chickenpox, I have the same questions as Suzanne poses. If the symptoms of chickenpox and measles (which differ in their presentations) are due to detox, and not to specific viruses, why did I only get chickenpox once? Why have I not experienced another, similar detox reaction in the 55 years since I had that itchy rash at age nine? And why do people who were lucky enough to have measles naturally (prior to the vaccine strain) still show evidence of immunity to measles 60+ years later, with no recurrence of “measles rash detox” after the first episode? These are things I cannot resolve if I do not believe in the existence of viruses.
There are some folks who have commented that by publishing Shawn’s article, “Paradigm…” I am contributing to a conflict in “the community,” suggesting that the differing opinions on the existence of viruses or their ability to sicken us and infect those around us via human-to-human transmission is “a distraction intended to cause division.” I don’t believe that’s true. I know it’s not true for me or for Shawn. While many people are just now beginning to even become aware there is a controversy, the questions have been brewing for several decades. The controversy did not “just pop up.”
As for me, I will continue to write about measles, and will continue to refer to measles “virus” because that is what feels right and true for me. I believe there are aspects of both sides of this argument that are true. My position at this point in time is that I believe there are “viruses” - including those that are commensal, and which live in harmony with us and which do not cause us significant harm, unless we are vulnerable, due to nutritional deficiencies, toxic overload (from diet, environmental exposures, medications, vaccines), stress, lack of sleep…
I do believe terrain is everything, and that terrain includes not only the physical body, but also, and possibly more importantly, terrain includes our spiritual and energetic level of well-being. Everything around us and through us has the potential to affect us in one way or another, which means we have many paths we can take to improve our well-being in a synergistic fashion. And that is exciting to me!
As we continue to learn and grow in our understanding of these amazing bodies we have been given, one thing I do know for certain is that I will continue to focus on love and truth. I will not avoid talking about ANYTHING, just because some people are afraid that by doing so, I may be contributing to “division.”
There is right. And there is wrong. In the fight to protect our children and grandchildren from the greed and avarice of the vaccine industry and those who benefit from the sale and uptake of vaccines, The Davids are united. We may disagree on what things are called. We may disagree on many things. We will never disagree when it comes to stopping the carnage and protecting the children. And we will continue to love each other and work together toward that end.
And if we have a little fun in the process, that’s just icing on the cake.
Marcella and Suzanne. Salt Lake City, Utah. 2017.
Yes! I had seen Dr’ Humphries’ comments on this topic and found her questions and perspective interesting. What I love most is that she (like you) is willing to consider and discuss this idea reasonably, like an adult who is seeking the truth - whether it aligns with previous beliefs or not. Too many people on both sides of it are far too combative and unwilling to consider questions.
We are not God. We will not know all the intricacies of His design until we can chat with Him in heaven. Won’t that be fun! But until then, we do the best we can with the minds He has given us.
Reading the follow-up, I didn't read anything about opinions being formed by looking at viruses under a microscope, more what makes commone sense, etc...
This is an excellent interview (Dr. Lee Merritt's interview with Poornihma Wagh, PhD VIROLOGY) of what a researcher believes about virues after studing them under the microscope during her career....a Virus/Covid Scam - Fraud of the scientific method…For anyone who wants to hear fascinating account of fraud of the scientific method today...the REAL science. This is a PhD in Virology, not a pediatrician or internist. Please consider watching Marcella. Thank you!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/75NmfQyp8HDU/